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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2014 8:12:33 GMT -5
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Post by mgk (Gerhard Kuehl) on Feb 3, 2014 10:52:17 GMT -5
Url doesn't work !
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 11:16:40 GMT -5
Thanks, Gerhard - I think it's fixed now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 11:38:55 GMT -5
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Post by Brian Sieber on Feb 12, 2014 15:16:41 GMT -5
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Post by starlord on Mar 17, 2014 20:56:32 GMT -5
According to their Facebook page everything is on track for a late March shipping.
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Post by starlord on Mar 20, 2014 17:59:47 GMT -5
Another website saying that Neptune is on track for a March shipment. Betakit
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Post by starlord on Apr 4, 2014 11:31:59 GMT -5
Neptune has posted the quick start guide Guide
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Post by idefix on Apr 4, 2014 13:49:57 GMT -5
I'm so sad right now It says in the guide that the Pine can't be used like a normal phone to make calls, only speaker-phone or headset. I don't want to carry and use a headset and I will never use speaker-phone in public, that's just wrong. People assume to talk privately when on a phone and being discreet is important to me. So I will probably have to cancel my Pine I had planned to use it as a standalone smartphone most of the time and if it now can't be used to take calls like any normal phone it's not really a replacement phone. I hope the quick start guide is wrong but I don't think it likely. They seem to have printed it already. I was so looking forward to the Pine. They always said it could be used like a normal phone, don't really know why they did that or changed it. They had working prototypes already they should have known if they could make normal calls or not. sad and confused Idefix
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Post by idefix on Apr 6, 2014 5:55:32 GMT -5
After some more digging and them saying again on Facebook that you can use the Pine like any phone by holding it to your ears to make a call, I now think it might be some kind of mandatory security warning in the quick start guide. Because it's the same speaker used for speakerphone and probably ringtones and music and everything. So this speaker is physically capable of producing sounds that are much too loud when held up to the ear. On a much lower setting the same speaker might also be able to produce a level of sound that's just what one would expect when using it like a normal phone close to the ear.
In that case it's not a question of the Pine being capable of doing it right but more of the Pine also being capable of damaging your ears when you do it wrong. Like having the settings on maximum and holding it near your ear. I'm going to be perfectly happy if the Pine can remember what setting I like to use when taking or making a call and the volume buttons are only a press away if the sound is too loud or loo soft anyway. I don't need anyone to tell me what's too loud, I'm a grown up girl that can handle a pair of volume buttons just fine and won't complain if something can be too loud if it can also be used just fine. But more and more people seem to want everything regulated so they can act like babies and still be safe.
Seems to make the most sense that way to me. I'm going to wait and see or rather hear for myself in a few weeks time.
Other ideas?
Idefix
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Post by porzerwolle on Apr 6, 2014 13:39:31 GMT -5
excuse my short german comment, but its fpr idefix and in english I cant tell it so well:
Ich fürchte, Du wirst mit dem Ding nicht so telefonieren können, wie Du Dir das vorstellst. Schau Dir mal die Position von dem Lautsprecher an. Der sitzt an der Oberseite. Jetzt stell Dir mal vor, Dein Smartphone hätte dort den Lautsprecher. Der Pine fehlt einfach eine Ohrmuschel. Oder, hätten die das Ding auf der Rückseite angebracht, würde es vielleicht gehen. Als Handyersatz in punkto am-Ohr-telefonieren können wir das wohl vergessen.
Ich freue mich trotzdem auf meine Pine. Meine Omate Truesmart ist nicht wirklich der Brüller.
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Post by idefix on Apr 6, 2014 15:30:07 GMT -5
porzerwolle said that he thinks the Pines speaker is positioned badly for using it as a normal phone since the speaker grill is on the top (or in normal landscape position right) 'edge' side of the Pine instead of the flat side where the display is located. That's were phones usually have their speaker grill that you hold to your ear.
He's of course right but I thought it might still work with the screen facing out, the 'right' side facing top and the Pine located slightly below the ear, since it is rather small that would also be a good thing for positioning the mic (located on the 'left' edge side) a bit closer to your mouth. Don't know if that might work well, I'm totally confused with them saying "Yes, of course you can", "No, you may not", "Yes, you can" and so forth.
I don't phone much, 2-3 times a month maybe, mostly getting called by my mum or having to quickly check something with my boyfriend or friends. Most of my phone calls don't last long either, so I don't need perfect comfort or sound quality. I'm not sure. I just really don't want to carry a headset for the few minutes or another phone if the Pine can do everything else I want it to (checking email, apps, audiobooks, music...).
That's why I didn't get a Truesmart or any other phone-watch, till now. I've always wanted to (long before smart watches there were phone watches you could buy from Brando) but I always held back thinking it would be a real hassle to carry a headset or speaking Knight Rider style to your watch when someone calls. The Pine being removable from the wristband and usable as a normal phone was my reason for backing it. I hope it works out that way, if not I'm probably not going to use the Pine much, carrying two phones isn't all that appealing to me. I'd rather switch between them depending on the need for a bigger screen. Most of the time I'm probably going to be fine with just the Pine's small screen.
Idefix
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Post by porzerwolle on Apr 6, 2014 16:07:56 GMT -5
thx a lot for translating my post and my opinion. Lil bit OT, the Truesmart isnt really useable in handsfree mode but nearly perfect in BT paired to a headset or other device like car stereo unit with BT. There are still a few numbers of issues by Truesmart like battery life and charging via cradle (mine broke after 2 weeks) which let me hope that the Pine wouldn't have....
Back to to Pine.... my phone calls are similar rare to yours. Usage of a smar/-phone/-watch is more for listening music, navigation, checking emails and SMS, Whatsapp, Skype, Viber, LINE, IM+ and for this I mean a smartwatch is nearly perfect. Don't have to carry your 5" device with you, a phone watch is able to be your perfect wearable companion.
I believe the rare numbers of your monthly calls is no reason to reject or refund the Pine cause the other purposes are an advantage to a big phone.
I suggest not to cancel/refund the Pine, instead look fpr the advantages of usage in daily life.
Because I use my mobile phone devices similar to you maybe once a week, I highly recommend to you an earpiece headset like the Nokia "J" aka BH-806 or the Motorola HX550. Both devices have a kind of "standby mode". Both devices, once paired with a phone, get to sleep. The "J" with a qiuver, if pulled out there is autoconnect and accepting incoming call, the Motorola does the same but has an integrated hinge mechanism. Putting back into the quiver/hinging ends call. So standby time is for several weeks. You can easily carry this devices into your purse or trouser/skirt pocket.
Give Pine a chance and if you are not satisfied with it, give me a PM with a price proposal cause I didn't backed it, harhar....
Best greetz from Cologne, NorthRhine Westphalia, Germany, Wolfgang
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